alien eggs Archives - Kontroversial Keith https://www.keithwatanabe.net/tag/alien-eggs/ Hitting Where It Hurts and Making the Universe Like It Wed, 03 Mar 2021 23:26:04 +0000 en-US hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=7.0 81900562 Alien: Brett Cocoon vs Brett Egg https://www.keithwatanabe.net/2021/03/03/alien-brett-cocoon-vs-brett-egg/ https://www.keithwatanabe.net/2021/03/03/alien-brett-cocoon-vs-brett-egg/#respond Wed, 03 Mar 2021 23:26:03 +0000 http://www.keithwatanabe.net/?p=4009 Recently, I ran across a video showing rare footage of HR Giger painting a prop of Brett in a cocoon.

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Recently, I ran across a video showing rare footage of HR Giger painting a prop of Brett in a cocoon. The description of the video made it sound gruesome in terms of the cocoon being more hideous. Turns out it was the same cocoon from HR Giger’s Alien book.

The post (which was one Facebook) went on to talk about how this version of the cocoon had been scrapped because they ended up wanting the scene to show the egg aspect since this cocoon would force the audience to infer a piece of the information not truly being supplied by the dialog.

That made a lot of sense to me just because the movie was rushing towards a finish so having extraneous dialog would break up the pace even further. But I think the picture demonstrates the strange dichotomy that has emerged in the thought process of the so-called eggmorphing mechanism.

And what I mean by that is that there’s been various posts on the web trying to reconcile the mechanics into some sort of canon, which I feel has been a failure. There’s some interesting interpretations of artists’ renditions of Brett slowly going from a cocoon stage towards an egg. It seems that those interpretations are attempting to take the base work from HR Giger and the Director’s cut and piece together some missing steps.

The problem I’ve had in the visuals and explanations is that nothing really ended up making much sense one way or another. I’ve already talked about the big leap in logic where the Director’s cut ends up showing not enough to really draw out a satisfying conclusion.

But the fact that HR Giger’s early versions got scrapped make me believe that he was being too artistic with too little to work with. I’ve read some of the descriptions and the napkin style illustrations he had to interpret and it’s worse than some of the product managers’ I’ve had to work with in giving me proper software specifications.

I feel that HR Giger was trying to use more of Dan O’Bannon’s descriptions for the cocoon in his earlier depictions. But in trying to make the cocoon feel more “alien” (as in his own artistic manner), it deviated far too much and didn’t look like anything besides some goop encasing a figure.

I imagine once Ridley Scott saw the result he was like, “What the fuck?” because audiences would not know what to make of what was going on without adding more dialog. Since the end goal was trying to show the complete lifecycle of the alien, Ridley probably demanded the cocoon part to be scrapped in favor of the near complete egg. Then a head would be inserted just so that Ripley could recognize the figure inside as Brett.

Unfortunately, this left people to wonder what was going on with Dallas. We can clearly see him bleeding from the neck and in certain cuts, you can see blood on his forehead (from what?) In those situations, based on the numerous ideas thrown at the wall, it would seem that Dallas had received the alien’s poisonous tail stinger in the neck, much like one of the edits where Brett received the same. That would explain the blood on the neck and probably paralysis as well as why he would want to die (probably massive pain and the alien having its way with him).

Still, outside of Dallas being glued to the wall in bad lighting, the audience can barely guess what’s going on. The cut to the open Brett egg makes me believe that Dallas already had a facehugger implant an embryo to start a new lifecycle. At this point, I’m utterly convinced of that as opposed to him becoming another egg.

And here’s where the original cocoon prop would have made a huge difference in my interpretation. The cocoon prop shows the near finished stage of a victim becoming an egg and one can infer based on that form that Dallas too could have been undergoing the same transformation.

However, as I’ve mentioned numerous times, I really believe by this point, Ridley Scott had a better vision of where this movie was going from a cohesive structure than what Dan O’Bannon might have been originally thinking. Remember that Dan O’Bannon never introduced the idea of the android Ash. That was inserted later on. Along with that the wonderful speech Ash gives on why he admired the alien as “the perfect organism.”

With this change in place, I think it sheds a huge new light on what could have been going on. For me, I like to think that there really isn’t a true eggmorphing process but something much simpler where the alien had already planted the egg and just used Brett’s fresh body as nutrients while it developed a newborn facehugger. Again based on the visuals we’re given, nothing else really makes sense.

Also, it explains why the alien went after Dallas and kept him alive. One thing I would say is that I am more skeptical that there was an available facehugger. I think there should have been evidence of one. In that case, the motivation for Dallas wishing death is more because of being paralyzed and violated by the alien.

Something a person on that Facebook post realized is that the image I originally posted lacked the massive hole that the alien had caused in Brett’s ruptured head. Another person replied in the thread that Brett’s death had been contested. In terms of cuts, there were at least 2-3 versions. Another 2-3 existed on paper with the alien ripping out his heart, the script having the original Brett figure’s head being torn off and the novel mentioning he was dragged into a shaft with the alien’s massive hands entwined around his throat/head.

What this shows is that there never was a real unified vision of what would happen to him. That made the cocoon and egg versions out-of-sync with what we were given. The cocoon version only seemed horrific because we could see the skeletal, bloody remnants of one of his hands plastered while the left side of his face seemed gouged (namely his eye and mouth).

For the longest time, I only knew about the classic image from his books. Fortunately, the Facebook video showed a different angle from the left side that gave a little more detail, even though it still was too dark.

It really sucks that the shadow blocks the majority of what’s going on with the left side of his face. But we can see the eyeball gouged out with a massive whole where the eye hole should be. The little amount of lighting hints that his mouth or left side of his cheek had been torn out. But what’s going on here?

I have two interpretations. The first interpretation is that HR Giger was attempting to model the airbrushed alien lair. In that image, there’s a picture of Brett cocooned. However, we see his skull exposed from the right side. So we never get a good look to see what happened to his left side.

I think Tom Skerrit might have even modeled for that picture so that HR Giger could render a prototype. Perhaps, he used that Brett cocoon prop in the picture but that the model was flipped in the picture. And I’m saying that one side has been reduced to a skeleton based on a quote Giger gave about the other artist who took a skull and an egg to produce a prototype that used his clay sausage technique.

There’s another image I remember seeing. I’m not 100% sure it was relevant to the Alien movie itself. But the image might’ve been from a comic or storyboard showing the alien using its tongue to pierce Brett’s eye straight through. It’s one of those “gruesome death” ideas I think the crew had been thinking about. I’m guessing it wouldn’t work well just because of how they could mechanically pull it off.

What’s weird in these images is that I think only certain aspects might have been reused for the alien egg product. There was another egg that HR Giger developed that seemed to incorporate the prototype with the head and the left leg portion of the cocoon.

So I’m wondering how much of either props were re-used in coming up with this scene. Like if you look close around the egg, it looks as though the cocoon form is partly preserved. My own interpretation of what that material is, is that it’s a resin used to hold the egg upright.

The head itself still has some of the shape and features used from the prop, including the hollowed out left eye section.

One thing to note is that the gaping hole had been sealed over from what it looks. But it’s a weird look because it’s not really shadows and that there’s the eye-like white ball mixed up in the goop. The longer shot of the Brett egg where Ripley sees him for the first time shows the eye drooping from the socket, leaving a small hole.

Of course, once we see a close up shot, the weird eye thing is back in place (great editing Ridley!!!!!) I can’t help but wonder what the hell was going on here. Did the alien just fuck around with the poor guy then stick his eye back in feeling sorry for what it did? I think that the eye drooping out was just another cheap horror tactic that the people had added to make the audience sick. But the editing is so bad that you can barely see it or you realize that something is very off in these shots.

One thing I will admit though is the last image I have up there is one of the few that actually is reasonably lit. But the color is terrible with the orange-gold effect. So there’s hints of blood around his forehead. But if you look really closely above his eye on the forehead area, you can see white markings. A close up reveals a bone-like structure (like teeth or teeth marks) So if the crew wanted to tie Brett’s ultimate death with the head gashing into this scene, then this image is the only one that brings it all together.

Either way, I’ve been pretty unhappy about the whole scene just because I can’t wrap my head around how the original cocoon scene would eventually turn into the last image. The egg shell part doesn’t make any sense. The cocoon that HR Giger intended is thick and kinda gooey whereas the egg while still thick has that hard, thinner shell. It makes me wonder if the alien is a fucking sculptor because damn son the finished product looks clean from all the weird thick goop that it originated from.

And that ultimately is why I really prefer to think the alien at this point had laid the egg. There’s just too many stupid questions and thoughts in trying to justify a complex biological process. I really don’t care for people making the excuse “well, this is an alien“. Well, fuck, might as well say the damn creature can cast spells too. You need some grounding and Dan O’Bannon’s script leaves too much of an open gap on the science aspect to make such an abstraction work. And quite honestly, I haven’t really seen anyone come up with a better rationalized view on how this works. All the existing theories just suck and don’t make sense in trying to combine everything out there into a unified idea.

 

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Alien: More Pondering About The Infamous Cocoon/Egg Scene https://www.keithwatanabe.net/2021/02/27/alien-more-pondering-about-the-infamous-cocoon-egg-scene/ https://www.keithwatanabe.net/2021/02/27/alien-more-pondering-about-the-infamous-cocoon-egg-scene/#respond Sat, 27 Feb 2021 07:50:37 +0000 http://www.keithwatanabe.net/?p=3996 With my HBOMax about to expire and Alien soon to be taken off their list, I decided to watch (or

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With my HBOMax about to expire and Alien soon to be taken off their list, I decided to watch (or listen actually) to Alien the Directors cut one more time tonight. While I love the movie overall, I’ve been both mystified and ambivalent towards the cocoon/egg scene that’s included in the Director’s Cut. It’s a scene that I’ve examined for years and in recent times have started to hate it more and more but for my own reasons.

The more I watch this scene, the more I grow to despise it. While it still fascinates me to a degree, I just feel that it looks terrible at the end of the day. I’ve heard Tom Skerritt’s remarks on how he suggested cutting it from the film due to pacing (which many people ended up agreeing was the correct choice) but I just feel it doesn’t work nor add enough to the movie the way it needed to in order for it to have remained.

The Director’s Cut version might’ve been the best version they could have made given the scenes I have seen produced by them. But even then, the scene was too short for my taste in trying to convey the ultimate message of Dallas and Brett’s fates as well as leaving far too many questions that the minute or so addition left behind.

Another major problem of that cut for me at least was that it’s just too damn dark. I get the intent of what Ridley Scott was trying to go for in creating body horror, claustrophobia and fear of the dark in space. But this is one of those scenes I just wish had been brightened somehow.

Part of the problem is that the color is awful. Ripley’s incinerator unit gives the scene a ghoulish cave-like glow as though she were about to roast marshmallows (well, she was but….) The few close ups of the Brett Egg lacked a lot of details, the worst being that the figure inside did not even resemble Brett but a clay dummy.

Maybe part of the fault is my own in this situation because of how I’ve seen the clay statue prior to the egg aspect being added around it. Nonetheless, the figure just looks too generic and requires Ripley to mention Brett’s name for the audience to make the connection.

Also, the shots of the Brett egg are really inconsistent. There are three main ones from the Director’s cut, a medium shot one and two close up ones. The medium shot one seems to suggest that Brett’s left eye falls out of its socket because you can see something droop down slowly, leaving a gaping hole.

However, when we get the first close up, the eyeball object is somehow still inside the dark patch where an eye hole should belong. Also, with the close up, you can see some strange dark lines going across his right cheek (two to be exact). There’s a few other similarly colored squiggles around his head but I can’t tell what those dark lines are. Hair? Blood? Horrible scratches?

When Ripley uses her flame thrower on Brett, there’s a very brief moment that you can see a better illuminated version of the Brett Egg. Oddly, those two dark lines disappear. Did the flames suddenly “clean” them off? That part felt really disorienting.

But going back to the second close up shot, there’s another really bizarre moment where the slime seems to be oozing out of the egg’s top. That shot seems inconsistent with the first one where only the eye is oozing out. Where did all that slime come from anyway?

Also, where is the head wound? I think I finally can see it since I did examined with a zoom feature at an image of the lit up egg. There seems to be a very hard to make out patch of white above his left eye.With enough zoom, the area almost seems to fall into the shape of his pierced skull because you can make out what looks to be ridges from bone lying to the right of a glob of slime. There’s some brighter red patches that might be blood but the stupid orange color makes it very tough to discern exactly what it is.

What’s also very frustrating to me in all of these shots is that we only get a very limited view of the Brett Egg. You can’t see inside, nor the left side of his head nor the rear of where the egg is. From an old photo of the clay statue, you get the feeling that the left side of his face was torn apart with the area around his left eye socket gouged unmercifully.

In these shots, that area seems darkened, suggesting that blood and goo cover up that area. Also, there’s a dark gap to the left side of his mouth. Again from the old picture, that side of his face just was missing. Because we don’t have a good shot of the left side, I have to wonder what exactly the alien did to him.

There’s another touched up photograph that HR Giger had worked on. It was supposed to be a prototype of the scene that he airbrushed (I think) over. The quote I read was that his art mate took a skull and an egg to create the initial stab at the Brett egg entity. So the photo with Giger’s touch would show the right side of the face, which only had a skull and a skeletal hand embalmed in bubbly goo that probably was Giger’s handiwork.

Putting that photo together with the results of these scenes, I’m wondering if half of Brett’s face had been eaten away by the creature. We don’t really get a good understanding of the mechanics behind how the cocooning process works but our only two viable sources are that the alien uses its slime and possibly acid for its handiwork.

The slime itself, as I’ve mentioned in a previous post, isn’t damaging as we saw Dallas touch it without harm. Also, Ripley touched the wall from the nest and wasn’t damaged. However, if you go back to the acid for blood scene, you’ll see how the melted floor has a slight resemblance to the strange design of the wall and cocoon structure.

So I’m wondering if the alien partly uses its acidic blood to convert the surroundings into matter for either building its nest or cocooning its victims. That would explain the damage on Brett’s face and possibly Dallas’ apparent pain.

In addition, I think about the movie The Fly where Jeff Goldblum’s character spits acid onto his food to devour it. So while a new facehugger is being nurtured, the alien might use a combination of its slime for preserving its victims and acid to help breakdown their matter for its young.

That said, I still dislike how the egg appears here. It’s too mature looking but at the same time it doesn’t appear leathery compared to the ones Kane found in the silo. The top has the strange opening shape but it looks too solid.

More importantly than anything else, the egg really doesn’t look as though it formed from Brett. It looks like he was deposited inside and that the egg itself is slowly digesting him. Now, there’s strange formations to the left side of the egg, which could be Brett’s former knee slowly mutating into the egg. Visually though, it just doesn’t come together and that’s where so much of this scene for me breaks down.

I simply cannot rectify how the mechanics work based on what we’re given here. A more logical explanation in my mind given the visuals here is that the alien had laid the egg before hand and used the slime, etc. to anchor it in place. Then after grabbing Brett, it stuffed him inside the egg while he was fresh to be devoured.

This line of thought falls so much better with the wasp-spider analogy from the book. Basically, the alien lays its egg then uses the victim to be fed upon and develop its young. Of course, the question begs how does the alien create an egg?

Then when Dallas comes into this picture, my conclusion is that he definitely is the next victim for the facehugger (if he isn’t already). I really don’t believe he was being setup as another egg. That idea just makes less and less sense for me because it breaks the perfection of the alien lifecycle. The whole part of Ash admiring the alien’s perfection comes to life with the alien setting up Dallas to be next.

If the alien wanted to create more eggs, why did it kill Parker and Lambert? There are hints from the novel and some in the script that one of them might’ve been cocooned in becoming another egg. But I think that’s just sloppiness on Dan O’Bannon’s part.

But again, that’s just more of why this whole scene sucks the more and more I think about it. The utter lack of detail and forcing the audience to create their own conclusions on how such a huge mystery that has lasted for a few decades really weaken the argument for keeping this scene in the way it was shot.

And I’ve already said that largest problem here is that you had several different visions of how this should have looked. I’m not even certain if given the proper budget and time whether or not this scene could have worked out satisfactorily. HR Giger’s vision vs Dan O’Bannon’s vision were too different.

Plus, Dallas begging Ripley to kill him seemed silly. So he’s cocooned but why couldn’t she fix him through an autodoc as suggested in the book? We see him bleeding from the neck and barely moving. But again, what’s happening? Why can’t he move? Is he paralyzed? Did the cocoon disable him? What’s going on?

Now, here’s another thing to think about. If you weren’t a fan of the movie, never read any of the source material, had never seen of Aliens nor any subsequent movie and this was your first time watching this movie, what would you think of this scene?

For me this scene makes so little sense. There’s too many leaps of logic for it to work. The placement is strange too because Ripley had just set the ship to self-destruct so why is she going down a random section of the ship? Isn’t her first priority to get off the ship since it’s in self-destruct mode?

The only way for this scene to have flowed well is if Ripley stumbled upon the section prior to setting the self-destruction sequence. I mean, it would make more sense for her to torch the chamber before that point too. Otherwise, the ship would have taken care of all that for her.

Then there’s the part where she’s emotional. Again, only if you knew the missing details like her having a relationship with Dallas in an idea that wasn’t filmed would you even realize why she was sensitive towards him. Otherwise, her crying for what she has to do makes no sense considering that Dallas acted like a stubborn, dumb ass towards her and is the main person responsible for their state of affairs.

So again, I can see how Ridley Scott’s ultimate decision to remove this part makes a lot more sense the more you look at it closely. The scene at this stage is more of a novelty for hardcore fans. But in the truth, the scene just never really ends up working holistically.

Also, I saw an interview with some of the people involved and they mentioned how by this point, the amount of horror witnessed made this scene almost overkill. The small parts of grossness like the eyeball falling out, the slime oozing from the cocoon, Dallas’ bloody neck, the slime dripping around Dallas and the bodies burning are pretty intense and don’t serve much purpose beyond shock.

And with Ridley Scott wishing to adopt a Hitchcock-like manner of film making where he leaves the most nightmarish stuff up to one’s imagination by leaving the details out, this is one case where far too much is left out and ends up backfiring. The whole cocooning process and egg creation along with what happens to Brett and Dallas leave too massive of a gap where that form of story telling just doesn’t work.

Ultimately, the tragedy to me is that the whole story of what happens to Brett and Dallas really gets shut down in favor of rushing towards the finish. I can understand the motivation from a business point of view but from an art point of view and story telling-wise, I feel really empty each time I ponder this part of the movie.

It’s a real shame because the lifecycle element of the alien really is the story here. Some of the original elements that Dan O’Bannon had like the temple where the astronauts discover the mural explaining the alien life cycle are tossed out and replaced with the android portion. I mean the android portions helps provide more motivation towards the resolution, but I feel that Dan O’Bannon’s main story gets subverted in the process.

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Alien: The Brett Egg Controversy https://www.keithwatanabe.net/2020/01/25/alien-the-brett-egg-controversy/ https://www.keithwatanabe.net/2020/01/25/alien-the-brett-egg-controversy/#respond Sat, 25 Jan 2020 09:23:53 +0000 http://www.keithwatanabe.net/?p=3384 If there’s a movie that has the most controversial deleted scene in the history of cinema, it’s possibly Alien with

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If there’s a movie that has the most controversial deleted scene in the history of cinema, it’s possibly Alien with the cocoon lair. What makes the scene controversial is that it resolves a major missing piece in the puzzle of the alien biology that only hardcore fans have cared about. At the same time, without it, James Cameron was able to produce a follow up movie that expanded upon the creature’s life cycle by introducing the concept of a hive queen. Nevertheless, in having two distinct situations, the canon of the alien has split into at least two camps.

The way I examine the movie Alien when it comes to the lair scene especially with regards to the life cycle aspect is without the context of future movies nor fan fiction. Instead, I try to look through the lens of what the original script and movie wanted to portray. Here, I want to focus on what was going on with the lair scene and bits in between that have been left up to interpretation.

First, one of the big mysteries of the lair scene was what was going on. Clearly, Brett was becoming an egg. Online, people have described his metamorphosis as eggmorphing. There’s quite a few interpretations on the mechanics behind this transformation, but I want to look at that a bit later. The other aspect, which is tougher to discern and more heatedly debated, is what exactly was going on with Dallas.

In my view, Dallas was not becoming an alien egg. Instead, he was going to be used as a new victim for the facehugger that possibly was growing within the Brett egg. My reasoning behind this mostly is that Dallas was not damaged in the same manner as Brett by being bitten fatally through the skull. However, he was paralyzed from the looks of his unmoving form. In the director’s cut, we see Dallas with some hints of blood caked around his neck while his face was pale. I feel that the alien probably used its tail to paralyze Dallas.

The other thing is that the cocoon that Dallas was within didn’t really resemble what I imagine a person being transformed into an egg would look like. Instead, it looked as though the resin covering him was used simply to plaster him against the wall for convenience and ease of access for a future facehugger.

Now, in the book and script, there’s some references to Dallas being unable to utilize the potential help of the onboard “autodoc” as a result of too much of him being eaten. It’s quite unclear what is eating him. The full grown alien? A new facehugger gestating inside of him? An embryo implanted by a new facehugger grown through the Brett egg?

My best guess here is that the Brett egg was able to launch a new facehugger which implanted an embryo inside of Dallas. Because  of what happened to Kane, Dallas probably was aware of his own situation, which is why he wanted Ripley to kill him. The Brett egg is “open” although it doesn’t resemble a completely finished egg so it’s quite possible that this occurred. Also, I find it ironic that Dallas received the same “punishment” from what happened to Kane in that Dallas’ dogged sense of duty impelled the Nostromo crew to the planet and investigate the signal in the first place.

Also, I want to put my eggs in that basket (pun intended) because of how Ash describes the alien as “the perfect organism.” In short, it’s efficient in everything it does, including reproduce. It makes no sense for the alien to create numerous eggs by itself the way the life cycle suggests. Instead, it makes more sense for the alien to try and continue perpetuating itself by not only creating an egg, but finding a new victim to ensure its species’ survival.

If we look at how Lambert and Parker met their ends, I would almost suggest that their deaths had nothing to do with the alien’s life cycle. Parker received a similar end as Brett and possibly could have been setup as a new egg. If that were the case, why did the alien kill Lambert? I feel that Parker’s death was more out of part self defense since Parker attempted to assault the alien and possibly just raw aggression. After all, why would the alien simply leave their bodies as is rather than returning them to its nest?

In the book, Parker and Lambert have a slightly different fate. Ripley does not find their bodies but it’s hinted that the alien forced them into an airshaft in a way that was horrific and possibly mutilated them further. Nonetheless, in that scenario, it might have attempted to take them to a new lair. But I feel that was more artistic license on Alan Dean Foster’s point.

Going back to the lair concept though, I want to focus more on the Brett egg situation. Of everything, the mechanics behind this aspect of the life cycle is by far the most mysterious. Given that we only see a small glimpse at what Brett has become, we never see the actual process. I’ve read quite a number of theories behind the mechanics and I’m going to write a few down then combine them into a single one that makes sense to me.

One idea is that Brett is implanted with a virus where he mutates like a disease into an alien spore. This one is really far off as far as I’m concerned because it does not explain how the egg itself forms. The material of the egg seems partly similar to what the nest is composed of. So I don’t think it’s a matter of one’s skin deforming. But I believe this theory is derived from people using Prometheus’ ampule to resolve both storylines. I hate that just because it attempts to take a current situation and merge it with an idea that was written a while back by a different author.

Another semi-wild but more plausible theory is that the alien egg is partly created and that Brett’s body is just “stuffed” inside so that the facehugger can use his body as food. I’m not a huge fan of this theory either because of how the egg is shaped with his body inside. If you examine other images such as Giger’s painting or the sculptor without the egg exterior, the suggestion is that the egg is formed around him.

The general consensus is that the alien’s slime plays a huge part in creating the egg. This is the most likely scenario given that the creature constantly is drooling vast amounts of goo. Heck, if you look closely at the Brett egg and even at Dallas, you see quite a bit of slime oozing around them. But even though this might be partly true, it still doesn’t make 100% sense to me based on how the slime seems to operate. All we know is that the alien drool/slime is viscous and non-acidic as Dallas able to safely touch in while crawling through the air shaft.

So I think that the material that is used to create the resin and the basic properties of the alien slime must be different. The thing is that the resin solidifies into a hardened material. But how is it generated? What part of the alien does that come from? Is it acidic and lethal?

I think it’s at least organic to some degree. I say this because Ripley uses her flamethrower to torch the lair effectively. I’ve seen the Dark Horse comics interpret the lair creation to a combination of aggression dismantling of an environment combined while using the slime. But again, I feel that’s a bit arbitrary where the slime has a dual purpose and it just doesn’t make a lot of sense since more of the ship and environment should be destroyed just by the virtue of the creature drooling everywhere.

So, again I propose that the resin itself is created through a different mechanism. It’s like how a spider has a spinneret. The thing with the alien is that we do not see such a mechanism and none of the movies that I’m aware of actually show this aspect. My best guess of how this is done is with the four strange tube-like structures on its back. While it’s probably just artistic license with Giger, it’s the only apparent variable that could be linked to a resin producing mechanism.

Regardless, I don’t think the slime alone is enough to create a lair nor even a cocoon. Which is why I think the creature could use the objects on its back to generate large quantities of the resin, unless there’s a hidden spinneret on the creature’s body we have yet to discover.

But let’s start a bit earlier on how everything gets started. First, we need to re-examine Brett’s death scenes. The thing about those scenes is that there were a few shot and an idea or two that got tossed out. The basic death scene shows a quick shot of the alien taking a gouge into his forehead before sweeping him up into the air shaft. Without the lair scene, we can just assume that was it for him.

There’s another long form of his death which shows Brett being dragged towards the alien with the creature’s enormous hands wrapped around the sides of his head. It then proceeds to deliver a bite into his cap while blood pours down his face. His legs shake and eventually he collapses to the ground where he gets dragged up into the shaft.

Another clip has a slightly longer version of what I mentioned above where not only do we see the long bite with blood gushing from his forehead, but the creature’s tail sliding up his leg and using the end to prod into his neck. In this case, the portion of the tail sliding up his leg eventually was re-purposed for Lambert’s death scene, but the actress has since acknowledged the final cut was actually Brett’s scene if you inspect the boots and pants.

Now, the above part I mentioned is more interesting because of how the tail comes into play. My guess is that the alien’s tail acts as a paralytic poison. We see Brett’s legs convulsing as if reacting to the poison while his hands remain at his before he drops to the ground. And already I mentioned that the director’s cut shows Dallas with blood caked around his neck, which may imply why he is unable to escape. And in the Aliens Alan Dean Foster novel, there’s a part not shown in the movie where an alien penetrates the APC and paralyzes Gorman with its tail, demonstrating that Alan Dean Foster may have some privileged knowledge of the mechanics behind the alien based on his previous writing experience from the original novelization.

There are three more scenes not cut for the movie but in the original screenplay, the book and one that was never shot. The screenplay simply has the alien capture a character Brett was based on but rips his head off. That character still ends up becoming an egg but once more no mechanics are explained. The book only mentions how the alien grabs Brett by the head and pulls him into the air shaft. The lack of a physical fatal assault in the book was to hint that he was meant to be kept partly alive for the future egg creation. Finally, Ridley Scott himself wanted to have the alien tear Brett’s heart out but canceled that out due to the similarities between that form of a death and Kane’s chestburster scene.

When you add the lair scene into the movie, you have to look at the mechanics of these deaths and which one really belongs since his ultimate fate and what happens need to be linked. I feel the combination of the tail neck piercing part and the elongated head biting scene are what really lead to the start of the eggmorphing process. The tail piercing part is just how the alien is able to subdue its victims but possibly can be done multiple times as Dallas seems to have suffered a similar condition.

Now, the head biting part is more interesting. The reason I say this is that Dallas did not receive a similar wound when we see him. It’s only Brett and Parker. But I think Parker’s end was meant to parallel the final cut of Brett’s demise. The lengthy head biting scene really is meant to mirror the facehugger.

If we accept that the inner tongue contains a similar function to the facehugger’s tube which plants the embryo inside of its victim, then that is how a new facehugger is created or transferred into a new victim. It would either by the tail or the inner mouth. I’m guessing the inner mouth just because of the parallels to the facehugger, although the way the alien uses its tail against Lambert may suggest a different sexual mode operating (although it’s just another artistic license).

I think it’s just simple evolution in the way this creature is being portrayed. Once it starts planting that embryo, it covets the victim by taking it to a lair to be secured. Alan Dean Foster used the wasp and spider analogy to describe what was going on here. Definitely, a spider makes the most sense as a close parallel creature to the alien in its behavior.

I think here the alien had been building its lair for its first victim. So once the creature brings Brett to its nest, it spends quite a bit of time building the cocoon around him while helping to nurture the new facehugger. The question at this point is how much of the cocoon/egg was completed before the alien brought Dallas to the nest?

One of the things in the novel is that it’s highly unclear there what the second cocoon was until Dallas tells Ripley “that was Brett.” The only description we get from the novel is:

A second cocoon hung there, different in texture and colour from the first. It was smaller and darker, the silk having formed a hard, shining shell. It looked, although Ripley couldn’t know it, like the broken, empty urn on the derelict ship.

The empty urn here implying an open egg that was near or inside of the alien space jockey (which we don’t see in the movie). There’s a concept art depiction of this scene where the “egg” actually looks like a traditional cocoon but pretty much fitting Alan Dean Foster’s description of “smaller, dark and having a hard shining shell.” For me, that means the egg was fully formed and we aren’t supposed to see Brett at all inside of this version of the egg/cocoon.

In the movie though, we see a peek of Brett’s head as the only thing visibly remaining from his body as the egg itself has formed all around him. The plaster model behind the scenes without the egg shell is described as a “clay sausage” where vague hints of a body are there. For instance, there’s the skeletal remnants of his left hand attached and clinging near his right shoulder while a thick, bulbous, shiny bulge appears to the leg, which might have been his knee cap overly encapsulated in the resin.  Unlike Dallas, we don’t even see his feet as either they’re completely covered or dissolved into the resin.

Also, one odd thing that never made much sense to me is how the statue shows that his left eye is almost gouged out. In the director’s cut, there’s a medium shot when we first see the Brett egg where there’s a drooping object falling from that side of his face. The clay statue shows something that looks like an eyeball partly falling from a large gap in the left eye hole, implying that the alien probably ripped that section of his face away. But why? That’s not the area that the alien originally had bitten at to implant the embryo (potentially).

Lastly, the close ups show some hints of blood, mostly from the slime oozing out of the egg. But the darkened environment really does not show the puncture on his forehead. So again, it feels like these shots are not congruent to the other parts of filming of his earlier death scenes and are more aligned with what Alan Dean Foster wrote about his initial encounter with the alien, meaning that the alien needed a live host for implanting its new facehugger creation.

At any rate, I think the one thing most people can agree upon is that no matter what, Brett’s body was being used to host the new facehugger…meaning it was feeding off of him. Now, that’s another part that just mystifies me because the facehugger itself does not appear to be able to feed by any obvious means unlike the chestburster.

Next was there ever a new facehugger? Or at least one that was functional? My basic assumption is yes because of how Dallas was positioned. We never get to see it and nothing comes out of the Brett egg to attack Ripley. It’s just odd that if they wanted to demonstrate a completed life cycle, why not show another facehugger lying next to Dallas?

So that again makes me wonder if the Brett egg was complete. The egg was “opened” but it did not have the same structure as the ones from the derelict ship with the four flowering corners. Also, why was his head just sticking out compared to the other eggs? The crew from the ship were gone and the rhetorical question raised was “what happened to them?” The only implication is that all the cargo was the original crew.

In my interpretation, the Brett egg had been complete. We only see his head for dramatic effect and as a way for Ripley to recognize him (because I doubt the audience could). The way the eggs were created by Giger were probably not the same that Dan O’Bannon (the script’s author) had originally in mind. Also, the script and novel has Dallas revealing the egg to be Brett rather than Ripley guessing.

The other thing is that in all honesty, the nest generally looked terrible. I know Ridley had a very difficult time trying to get the nest to look right. There were a few other shots where the colors looked terrible. In one shot, Dallas looked to be inserted into a bee hive like pink popcorn thing. Another shot was too pink and had maggots dropping from Brett’s egg. I think in trying to reconcile Giger’s vision of the interior of the derelict ship and the nest just were impossible. And despite all Ridley’s insistence on the scene being cut for time and pacing sake, I believe it was cut just because it looked awful.

I think it’s one of those things where the original writer, the director and the artist had very different notions of how things should really look. Giger made it feel alien but the concept art made the cocoons look more like traditional webbing. Kane’s description of the egg being “leathery objects” fail to align with the bizarre, glossy and hardened structure embalming Brett and Dallas.

Also, the written descriptions and actual images never really meet. The written pieces make the cocoons sound soft with the victim being embalmed into something tighter and more protective. The Dallas cocoon is described as looking like a white, silky, enclosed hammock. That certainly does not match how Dallas’s cocoon looks in the movie. And Brett’s “smaller, darker cocoon with a hardened shell” definitely doesn’t match. His cocoon is pretty huge and both have hardened shells.

But neither are made with silk. It’s goop. Yucky, nasty goop with no elegance and no discernible function besides keeping a victim in place.

With the Brett cocoon, I’ve always wondered how it came to be. I imagine him being dragged by the alien while he was unconscious or slipping in and out of conscious from his severe wound(s). Then it would place him against the platform of pipes where the alien would begin to use the hoses from its back (or perhaps a mechanism on its chest, etc) to spray him with a thick, fast solidifying resin.

It would place him into a crouching position with his hands folded across his chest while creating the initial binding to the platform. Since Parker spent at least 20 minutes making the incinerators for Dallas, a similar amount of time would be spent by the alien forming the shape of the egg and possibly nursing the facehugger embryo. We see that there is some slime dripping from the top of the egg and some from Brett’s face, so either that’s being generated by the alien as a protective fluid or the facehugger is producing it as it consumes Brett’s body. I’m guessing it’s a bit of both mostly from the alien. But you can see some blood flowing from the opening.

Now, the weird thing is how the top is forming. It’s the only part of the egg which has a unique pattern. It’s almost artistic but it doesn’t appear as organic as the actual, fully formed egg. That part alone is why I just feel it wasn’t ready but still in a state of formation. And I think it is the alien itself creating that pattern for the hatchling facehugger.

The resin itself I don’t think damages Brett’s flesh. Instead, it just solidifies around him. But there’s a lot of it and the facehugger is just slowly disposing of his flesh. The alien might rip off parts of Brett to compact him further for its creation of the egg but I don’t think the main alien consumes him during this process unless its one of those “feeds its young” type of biological processes.

At any rate, I think that the scene is both sexy and ugly simultaneously. I don’t think there would ever be an easy way to make Giger’s vision look elegant and menacing with what Dan O’Bannon originally wanted. I think the original vision wasn’t as harsh and that the cocoon was something nice and soft, hardening overtime and with an incredible amount of material binding the victim inside. The embryo probably would have been inserted inside the cocoon with the victim while more bindings were added to form a tight and highly protective shell.

 

 

 

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One question I’m hoping that will be answered is if we’ll see more insight into the aliens in the upcoming Prometheus 2 sequel. I’ve already provided my say into this manner in my own script (which I won’t talk about here) but for future writers (in case I don’t get the job…which I doubt regardless), I’m hoping that they’ll at least delve into more of the aliens background.

Of course, we have a pretty decent understanding behind the lifecycle. We’ve seen tidbits here and there that explain how they evolve. What isn’t certain is where they come from or their composition. Thus far, we can only assume that the engineers possibly had manufactured them or figured out a way to manipulate them. The two murals in the ampule room allude to the aliens, possibly even being tamed as well as their lifecycle. But everything else still is a mystery.

Something I thought about is the connection between the black substance, eggs and the aliens’ ability to reproduce. Many fans tend to favor James Cameron’s interpretation of events, but we can’t ignore Dan O’Bannon and Ridley Scott’s original vision. And while Cameron’s interpretation might make more sense, the eerie mechanism that the original script wanted makes the aliens even more fearsome. Despite even that and what we see in the Director’s Cut, we still have no clue as to the specifics of how the alien eggs are produced in the context of the Ridley Scott version.

The problem with the Ridley Scott version in the director’s cut is that much of the scene is left to your imagination. The idea of being cocooned and evolving into an egg is quite horrorific, which is why Scott probably didn’t go into any depth at the time. With the Prometheus movie, new possibilities for explaining the egg hatchery scene manifest. Up until now, we simply have assumed that the hatchery was created through the slime of the creature. But those details themselves lead me to have more questions. For instance, when Dallas is hunting the alien in the shaft and uncovers the goo by accidentally laying his hand on it, why doesn’t he react (outside of disgust)? Shouldn’t the chemicals from the alien’s slime cause some sort of biological repercussions on Dallas?

I’ve read some theories on how the alien’s tube-like structure on its back have something to do with the construction of the nest. Main thing for me is that we’re all left guessing but it’s something that has never been discussed in the movies. I recall one comic showing the aliens building the nest, but I give very little credit to the comics as the writing tended to be close to repulsive.

One theory I had that connects Prometheus, the black substance, the urns and the eggs together involves a cut scene from Alien. In the original Alien, Brett was supposed to be stabbed by the alien’s tail. The shot used ended up becoming what fans have called “Lambert’s rape scene”, although everyone who has read interviews realize that the scene was really Brett’s legs being shot. The thing is that the Alien’s tail acted like a stinger. In the Alan Dean Foster novelization of Aliens, Gormon was originally stung by an alien in the APC escape scene. Considering that Alan Dean Foster wrote the novels for both Alien and Aliens movies, he probably had some of the better insight as to the mechanics for these movies before they hit the cutting board (and thus having more credibility with me compared to the crappy comic books).

So this stinger possibly could act as a mechanism for impregnating victims or perhaps “injecting the DNA/black substance” so that the victims eventually would grow a facehugger type of creature within them. Consider how Holloway used his, uh, “stinger” in Shaw, impregnating her after he was infected by the black substance and the trilobyte/”Cuddles” creature ended up evolving from Shaw. Also, consider Holloway’s genetic decomposing and his features. His body essentially was breaking up but appearing “rocky” or maybe moving towards something that resembled an egg-like form.

When we look back at Brett and how he was morphing into an egg, you have to really wonder how biologically things worked. We never really see how the alien turns one into an egg and it’s such a curious issue. But the black substance offers a very plausible scenario.

Well, you probably are wondering why someone like me is so obsessed. It’s just one of these questions in a piece of work that I love and have been fascinated with for so many years that never has been properly answered. The answers that have been shown more or less were unsatisfactory and hacky at best. So seeing Ridley Scott himself respond to this question would make my life feel more complete.

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